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Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:52 pm
by kheaton
I have an old Triumph frame that came with a lot of parts I picked up a few years ago. It was raked to 47 by grinding the neck down even with the top tube and boxing what was left of the original neck with 1/4" plate and then adding a new neck.
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I didn't know the original neck was in there until I cut into it. There's still plenty of the original neck left that I could gently remove and add another one at 30 degrees. I'm hoping to save this front loop and hard tail it for the extra motor I have.
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I can build a new frame but would like to save this one because the numbers are good on it. What do you all think?

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:40 am
by hansgoudzwaard
It looks as if you have a decent frame . It's hard to see, but if you have enough surface to weld the neck to, it should be OK. Maybe a little gusset on each side without it looking ugly.

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:25 pm
by hansgoudzwaard

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:32 pm
by curt
it is a real pain in the ass but if you take your time and go real slow you can cut all the origonal casting stuff off and start over with bare tubes again . that factory stuff was i believe what they called furnace brazed whatever it is it really holds extremely well . i have used a bunch of cutoff wheels and done it but it is a lot of work but then you can put whatever neck on it you like and still save the numbers. if you do post some pics id love to see how it comes out

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:41 am
by gearhead1951
I'm sure some one here will correct me if I got this wrong , but I think the numbers are on the casting !!

:think: :popcorn: :obscene-drinkingcheers:

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:15 pm
by kheaton
Yes, the neck and numbers are part of the same casting. I was planning to weld a new steering neck to it so the numbers would remain intact. This is basically how it was raked before. I should prob post more pics when I get it cleaned up so everyone can see where the original steering neck was. I don't know how to post pics from my smarter-than-me phone and the gubment computer here at work blocks the forum.

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:58 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
Can you e-mail attachments from your phone? Or can you link your phone to your home computer?

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:31 pm
by kheaton
This is about where the original neck goes. I haven't had time clean it up yet. You can see in the pic where the top tube goes into and is brazed to the neck casting
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Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:47 pm
by kheaton
Just realized the links Hans posted show exactly how the steering neck is positioned and the casting.

Re: Can this frame be saved?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:14 am
by hansgoudzwaard
That link was in my favorites. It does show the original frame/neck placement very well. You have a choice at this point if you want to weld it as it is/where it is.