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New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:29 am
by Cycle-psycho
I am building a custom hardtail on a budget and i see that i can get a new stock Evo engine from HD for about $3800 Canadian. I know S and S is an awesome engine, but they are expensive, and im looking for opinions from everyone about using a stock Evo? In a light hardtail, will the low horsepower be made up by the lighter weight? I know i can hype out the Evo over time to get more horses as i get the cash. Just want to make sure its not a super bad decision.
Thoughts?

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:55 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
I'm not much on "low ET'S" between red lights. I like reliable and cruising. I wouldn't want a radical engine.

Last year I was in Bellingham , Wa., ; an evo shortblock was abt. $2800. US.

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:00 pm
by BIGJIM
EVO motors are tried and true and you can't beat the price.
For what you save, you can add HP later.

Or, save your dough up and go Old School Cool,100hp Shovel!
http://www.spchoppers.com/
And he's Canadian!
Tell him Big Jim sent ya!

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:17 pm
by Cycle-psycho
Anyone know how long the warranty is on a new Evo? Im assuming its not that long if it is used in a chopper versus a regular HD.

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:18 am
by hansgoudzwaard
Where is your closest HD dealer?

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:04 pm
by Cycle-psycho
Oh, I know...just go and ask!

Just weekend thinking, and since the web site isn't very clear about warranties, that I can find, I thought Id throw it out there.

I'll just have to make a visit to the local HD dealer during my work day (sigh)!

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:52 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
This is the dealership I referred to. They were good to deal with. (360) 671-7575

http://www.mtbakerharley.com/canadian-h ... travelers/

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:13 pm
by joechop
You prob don't want to pay this much, but I have a line on a brand new (still in crate) TP121 engine (polished, Mikuni HRS carb, Eldebrock Intake and I'm guessing electronic ignition as well - that's typically how they shipped them). These things go for arond $6900... sale for $5k USD + shipping. The guy who has it won't leave me alone.

joe

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:43 pm
by Cycle-psycho
After looking into it a bit more, I think I will go with the S&S 96". It comes with carb, air cleaner, ignition, manifold, and is a better engine. By the time I buy the HD Evo and kit it out with those parts, its only slightly less than the S&S.
The other thing is the EVO doesn't have ANY warranty!! The S&S comes with a two year warranty, even if I install it. HD will only give a one year if they install it, which isn't going to happen!

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:40 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
Who would you buy buy the S&S from , and how much?

Re: New HD Evo or S&S for hardtail

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:10 am
by railroad bob
Cycle-psycho wrote:I am building a custom hardtail on a budget and i see that i can get a new stock Evo engine from HD for about $3800 Canadian. I know S and S is an awesome engine, but they are expensive, and im looking for opinions from everyone about using a stock Evo? In a light hardtail, will the low horsepower be made up by the lighter weight? I know i can hype out the Evo over time to get more horses as i get the cash. Just want to make sure its not a super bad decision.
Thoughts?
I bought a 91 Evo in 1993, put it on a dyno first summer I had it. Stock was 57HP.
Changing to an Andrews EV-46 cam, S&S Super E, Thunderheaders and a Screaming Eagle ignition module netted about 75HP.
Noticeable seat of the pants difference.

Personally, I like HP and torque. I got lucky and when I needed a replacement, wound up getting an Ultima 113CI when on sale for $3600 with a one year warranty, free shipping to lower 48 location.
They advertise 120HP and 120 Ft Lbs Torque, rear wheel.
It is definitely much stronger than the previous 96CI motor.
I can always find a use for more power. If it was me, I would get the baddest motor I could pay for, with a warranty.