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INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:28 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
I bought a 2" Ultima belt drive last fall. January came , and time to install. The spacer had to come out, and the seal.
The Spacer was too wide to accommodate the rotor and engine /trany plate.
Drilled four 1/16" holes in the old seal, some 11/2 screws, a steering wheel puller, and out it came.
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H/D sells one to pull or install the seal. About $150.oo CDN.
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Re: DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY........
Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:17 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
These are the part numbers for the new seal and spacer. Note where H/D makes their seals.
- Genuine H/D parts
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Re: DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY........
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:13 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
To install the sprocket shaft seal, rub some oil on the rubber part of the seal .
To keep oil leaks away, apply some Loctite sealing compound # 601 between the seal and the engine case.
Using the stator spacer, a PVC 2" coupling, use the hub/sprocket nut and tighten until the seal is fully inserted.
Remove some of the pvc from the inside of the coupling so it does not contact the rubber, only the metal.
- ...MORE TO COME
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Re: DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY........
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:48 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- The right bolt is fine
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- it binds
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To align the motor and the transmission with the trany- engine plate (or inner primary), the engine to frame and the transmission to frame bolts all have to be loosened off and the nuts removed.
You should be able to move the transmission and the motor around without binding.
Position the engine plate up to the motor and transmission and install and tighten the bolts.
With the engine plate bolted to the motor and transmission you should be able to grab the engine plate and move the motor and transmission into a relaxed position.
With the engine plate bolted in place you should be able to lift out and drop in the motor -to- frame and the transmission -to -frame mounting bolts.
If the bolts do not drop freely, try repositioning the engine plate to allow the motor and transmission to move into whatever position they need to be in . If you cannot find a relaxed position for the motor and transmission, you may have to redrill one or two of the mounting holes in the frame.
I am going to go slow and use a die grinder. I don't want to over do it.
In the attached pictures, without the engine plate , the front engine bolts drop freely.
When I install the engine plate, one of the bolts binds. These are not grade 8 bolts, just some I had laying around.
Made some Brackets...
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:15 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
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Brackets for the Voltage regulator, and the oil filter.
I didn't like the factory position of the oil filter.
When you changed it, oil would pour out all over the bike, making it more of a mess.
Re: DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY........
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:06 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- How they do it.
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I ignored the info about WASHERS and SHIMS and SILICON.
They talk about being able to align the sprocket shaft splines and the collar splines while the belt is under tension.
I did it differently, and was much easier than this.
INSTALL OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE....
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:56 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
Aligning the sprocket shaft splines and the collar splines is difficult because of the close tolerances.
I placed the collar on the sprocket shaft by itself without the motor pulley or the pulley nut.
The spacer is put on first.
Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:34 pm
by budoka
good stuff!
-dan
Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:36 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- WOW!!
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Yeah, amazing I got this far.
MORE PICTURES COMING.
Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:25 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- Motor Pulley
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Slide the motor pulley onto the sprocket shaft collar, but do not bolt the two together.
This way the motor pulley can rotate without turning over the motor.
Place the drive belt on the edge of motor pulley and the transmission pulley .
Slowly rotate both the motor pulley and the transmission pulley while pushing the belt towards the motor plate.
After a few rotations and nudging with the palm of your hand the belt should be fully engaged on both the motor pulley and the transmission pulley.
- 2 inch belt
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Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:17 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- belton
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You can now bolt the hub to the collar and torque the hub nut to the motor shaft.
I did that, but used no Loctite as I am pulling it right off after a test start.
I did not use the clutch plates or pressure plate. I can start the motor without those.
Torque the Transmission nut, and it has a lefty thread.
INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:43 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
Place a "Locking Bar" between the two pulleys at this angle to lock the drive.
You can torque the drive nut this way; place it the other way to torque the transmission pulley nut.
The bar can be a piece of strap 8" long and 1-2 inches wide.
Re: INSTALL AN OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:12 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
- $$$$
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Remove the oil screen cap and "O" ring, and install the oil pressure gauge and fittings.
Use a 11/16 drag link socket, (abt $25 Ca) before tax, or make your own.
I made my own in about 10 minutes.
- TAKEITOUT
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- Oil Press!!
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I am leaving the sending unit in to use later.
Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:34 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
HEY, It Runs !!
Fired it up today for the first time since I bought it.
Happy about that.
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I'm going to leave the wiring as it is.
Re: INSTALL A OPEN PRIMARY BELT DRIVE.....
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:35 pm
by hansgoudzwaard
The nice thing is that every thing that came with the motor is in good condition, ignition module, coil, etc.
I have a 5 speed gear set that came with it, so i'll trade that off at some point.
I had a few questions I needed answers for , so I called a lad who has a bike shop outside of Vancouver, Canada.
He was polite and knowledgeable, and never made me feel I was imposing.
E-mailed me back the next day with all the right info. I don't know him, but I feel I do.
Thanks
Dobbers Choppers.
http://dobberschoppers.com/