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Re: curts springer build

Post by gww25 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:47 pm

From what I can see in the snapshots that's a fixable situation with a little grinding and facing so don't give up yet. Remember that if it's not a tight fit then it's not worth doing in the first place. Nothing is worse on a chopper than a loose sloppy fitup with a lot of 'air-space' between the components.
Next time pay better attention to the plans and do a little more in-depth pre-planning and mockup work. Sometimes I spend weeks just thinking about something before I ever commit to the steel. Remember the steel fabricators credo. Draw full size patterns, do full size mockups, do a cheap steel mockup and then build the final product.

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Re: curts springer build

Post by gww25 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:03 pm

Forgot to mention that fabrication is very often a hit and miss situation. Sometimes even the best fab guys goof something up, If you walk behind the shops of the 'famous' chopper and Rod guys you'll be amazed at what ends up in the dumpsters. At one very well know West Coast operation more steel went out the back door than ever went out the front door and that's not an uncommon situation. That's one reason that 'custom' prices are as high as they are. Everybody has to have a little padding in the budget for the goof-ups.

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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:48 pm

gww25 wrote:From what I can see in the snapshots that's a fixable situation with a little grinding and facing so don't give up yet. Remember that if it's not a tight fit then it's not worth doing in the first place. Nothing is worse on a chopper than a loose sloppy fitup with a lot of 'air-space' between the components.
Next time pay better attention to the plans and do a little more in-depth pre-planning and mockup work. Sometimes I spend weeks just thinking about something before I ever commit to the steel. Remember the steel fabricators credo. Draw full size patterns, do full size mockups, do a cheap steel mockup and then build the final product.

ya i origonally wanted to go with the lugs on the plans but i couldnt make them myself and being stubborn and wanting to do it myself i went with a design i saw in your writeup on the cd and didnt take into account the hub would be diffrent on the aftermarket wheels everything fit perfect with the factory mockup wheel i used . im far from giveing up like i said im stubborn i will make it work and look good too . and i agree i dont like all that space between parts either . thanks for the input i really value your opinion
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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:52 pm

gww25 wrote:Forgot to mention that fabrication is very often a hit and miss situation. Sometimes even the best fab guys goof something up, If you walk behind the shops of the 'famous' chopper and Rod guys you'll be amazed at what ends up in the dumpsters. At one very well know West Coast operation more steel went out the back door than ever went out the front door and that's not an uncommon situation. That's one reason that 'custom' prices are as high as they are. Everybody has to have a little padding in the budget for the goof-ups.

i know exactly what you mean i grew up arround the corner from a fab shop and used to pick through the dumpster found some really cool stuff . make some goofs myself but i learn from em and metal is relativly in expensive so ill keep trying
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Re: curts springer build

Post by budoka » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:03 pm

LOL, Curt, i think i'd be more worried if everything went exactly according to my original plan. overcoming those little "obstacles" that pop up is all part of the satisfaction of doing it yourself. the difference between a real builder and a cobbler is that a real builder will do like you are and work it out instead of just going for "good enough."

that springer looks absolutely sexy. and if it rides anything like mine did (better i'd bet, since you had access to some real tools), you're gonna be like, "so THIS is what a front end should feel like." i know it sure opened my eyes, and i will dang sure be making all my own from now on. kudos to Gary for opening my eyes.

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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:14 pm

budoka wrote:LOL, Curt, i think i'd be more worried if everything went exactly according to my original plan. overcoming those little "obstacles" that pop up is all part of the satisfaction of doing it yourself. the difference between a real builder and a cobbler is that a real builder will do like you are and work it out instead of just going for "good enough."

that springer looks absolutely sexy. and if it rides anything like mine did (better i'd bet, since you had access to some real tools), you're gonna be like, "so THIS is what a front end should feel like." i know it sure opened my eyes, and i will dang sure be making all my own from now on. kudos to Gary for opening my eyes.

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no doubt i cant wait to ride it like i said i never owned a decient springer before by the time i was able to afford one it was very well used and abused i want it right and like u i dont have all the tools i want but im figureing it out (i dont think well ever have all the tools we want )
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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:18 pm

Maxthegardener wrote:Iam sure you'll figure that one out! ...anyway you could counter sink the bolt heads or machine the hub ???
joy to watch thanx Curt

thanks max trying to keep it honest mistakes and all hopefully when someone else makes one theyll learn from my goofs too
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Re: curts springer build

Post by jonester123 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:29 pm

Hi curt, well managed to get back online since my computer crashed bigtime. Had registry failure and had to reload everything to get going again, lost alot of stuff but had most backed up on disks and printed out. Lots to do to get it all back, atleast it is up and running so far. Your springer is looking real cool man. :angry-banghead: :D :obscene-drinkingcheers:

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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:31 pm

jonester123 wrote:Hi curt, well managed to get back online since my computer crashed bigtime. Had registry failure and had to reload everything to get going again, lost alot of stuff but had most backed up on disks and printed out. Lots to do to get it all back, atleast it is up and running so far. Your springer is looking real cool man. :angry-banghead: :D :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:15 pm

finally got the tires mounted on the new rims got it in a rolling chassis still gotta fix the lower legs so i can have a front brake with the wide hubs just waiting for some time to play on the milling machine so i can finish em up soon i hope i did remake the rockers though . i dont like the looks as much as the origonal ones but i might remake em anyone have dxf files of some sharp extended ones
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Re: curts springer build

Post by Jeff L » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:26 pm

Wow man....thats looking pretty nice.Cannt wait to see the changes with each part that goes on makes.
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Post by hansgoudzwaard » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:09 pm

I am following both builds. Amazing work and good writeups. You get a lot done in a short time.

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Re: curts springer build

Post by Maxthegardener » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:58 pm

I'll third that...very nice Curt

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Re: curts springer build

Post by curt » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:12 pm

thanks everyone more to come soon
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Re: curts springer build

Post by krymis » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:57 pm

curt it looks beautiful. the only criticism i can say is i like the look of a spring bridge the is horizontally inline with the lower tree when the bike is weighted and standing up. It looks like your spring bridge may be a little low for my taste. This is one observation i have made of all the "superior" springers on the market. also when the weather breaks we should meet up as you are not that far from me. I would love to look this over in person.

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