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Re: new project

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Curt what grade tube are you using for the rear legs of your springer? If I remember correctly the sample pieces you sent me to match the leg spuds to were only .125 thickness.
That seems a bit skinny for the length. (according to the tables in the handbook)
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theyre 1/4 chromoly dom had to have them turned down but they are perfect you do excellent work my friend
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Re: new project

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With 1/4 inch thickness don't you need to normalize that after welding or am I misinformed?
My understanding is that you need a big ass oven to heat it up and hold it at temp for a while after welding on 3140.
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Re: new project

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Oops 4130
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4130 and 4140 regardless of thickness must be normalized after arc or TIG welding IE heated o a dull red and allowed to air cool to avoid hydrogen embrittlement
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Re: new project

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That's it? I thought there was more to it than that. For some reason I could have sworn I read that it had to be held at something like 1100-1200 degrees F for a bit (couldn't remember how long) and then cooled very slowly to avoid embrittlement.
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i heat it like dave and let it air cool have done some structural stuff over the years for work still holding up over ten years old . not sure its the proper way but its the way i was taught
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got some time welding on the front legs today didnt get pics but more to go tomorrow ill try to get pics . got the bottoms of the tube ground to 45s and drilled the rosette holes . welded the lower lugs in and ground and sanded came out nice couple small spots where i undercut a little but ill fill them in and regrind and sand till its perfect . it was a lot of heat today i dont want to warp anything so slow it is
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Re: new project

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What I described results in normalized cromo. Lots of heat treats for hardness temper etc. What Drivemarak described sounds like a combo of normalizing and annealing. But for the structural I do normalizing is fine.
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Re: new project

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Thanks for the info guys. What I read must've been the process for annealing, not normalizing.


Thanks again,

Mark
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Re: new project

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a little more sanding and the front legs will be ready for primer . thanks again mark for making the lugs for me
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Location: Oregon City, Oregon

Re: new project

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Your welcome, if you or anyone else here need any more of them, hit me up. I have since made a ball end cutter attachment for my lathe, so the ends are a little more uniform.
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gettin there had to have the stem turned down was way too long . think i might have a deal on a complete evo softail drivetrain i gotta go look next week
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Hoping the yahoo e-mail account doesn't disqualify me from being a member here.
Location: Oregon City, Oregon

Re: new project

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For future reference TC bro's sells pre made stems.
I got 2 of them last fall for just under $30 each.
That's less than what I spent for the ground and polished 1030
that I built the stem out of for my first set of forks.
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Re: new project

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been a little got the stem machined and up on the lift . got the tank need to mount it and put the sight tube setup in .i really need to find some time to figure out bars
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